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Participant<<< Not really a fitting end to such a series, but I guess spectacular flameouts like that are to be expected when the company gets sold off and the core devteam either leaves or gets fired. If you want another case study, look what happened to Ultima. >>
What happened to the Ultima series? Was the final game a disappointment? I remember playing Ultima in the early 90’s… I remember # 7 — “The Black Gate” — had a fabulous ending with that monster yelling “d*mn you, Avatar!” etc. Did Richard Garriot (aka Lord British) stop designing?
Anyhow, is the KQ9 game expected to close out the series, or leave open the possibility for more KQ games?
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“… (by Brandon Klassen) I wish KQ2VGA and KQ7 were fresher in my mind. I really need to play KQ7 again. Alex stays in the land of the Green Isles at the end of KQ6. I don’t remember what happened to Rosella in KQ7 at the end – what were the specific details?“…at the end of the King’s Quest games” – well, we are at the end of the King’s Quest games. As far as Roberta is concerned, I guess KQ7 is the end. I don’t know if she still considers Mask canon after it didn’t really turn out how she envisioned. I need to play that game again too – I don’t remember what happened at the end of Mask
…”Rosella ended up staying with Edgar in the Kingdom of Clouds. Don’t remember seeing any wedding scene though. But I only played it through once, and that was more than 10 years ago. Couldn’t do it again. I just didn’t think that KQ7 was that good. It was too Disney, the savegame system was exquisitely horrible, and the boogeyman world was designed to see if indeed my fist could penetrate the glass of my monitor (IIRC the boogeyman would pop up at random intervals and it was a death sentence when he did; there was no defense except perhaps being close enough to the screen edge. Ooga Booga Land should have been called “Restore Land” instead.)
The end of Mask of Eternity is fresh in my memory as I played it through for the first time less than a year ago. After you smack down the guy who caused the whole mess of everyone in Daventry turning to stone, the last scene shows that all the apostles have been restored and the mask re-assembled. Connor draws a sword, and that’s pretty much the end of the game, and the end of Sierra’s KQ. Not really a fitting end to such a series, but I guess spectacular flameouts like that are to be expected when the company gets sold off and the core devteam either leaves or gets fired. If you want another case study, look what happened to Ultima.
I’m really curious to see what’s going to happen with KQIX. From the screen shots it looks like they’re tying the worlds from KQ6, 7, and 8 together. From Caesar’s writings that I’ve skimmed over here and there it looks like a LOT is going into the story. Quite a novelty these days….
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ParticipantJust install the DOS version of the game. Then, if you need to, run it in DOSBox.
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Participanti have the same problem with lighthouse. it didn’t install properly, and when i uninstalled and tried to reinstall i got the gdi.dll message. what do i do to get this to play?
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ParticipantThanks, it’s always the simple things I’d never think to try that work. I didn’t realize it was just a matter of copying the folder off the cd I figured there would be more to it than that.
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ParticipantHow ironic, I was just searching around for ROTD stuff.
I only played it for the first time in April. Awesome game, as you say! Truly brilliant. But then again, you could say the same for all Dynamix games. Loved WB and HOC as well.
I’m currently working on the soundtrack for it. Bought the SEGA CD version off Ebay recently too 🙂
Cool stuff.– Alistair
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ParticipantCool Troy! I collect sealed boxes as well.
You may want to refrain from scanning them for now. Once we start launching our archival projects publically, there’ll be stuff for people to contribute to, such as scanning boxes. We wouldn’t want you to scan a whole bunch of stuff, only to have us close the museum area here when we open up new areas and say that your scans are not at the right specs for us to use.
I know it’s asking a lot of everyone but please have a bit more patience with us while we get stuff organized!
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ParticipantDon’t run the game from the CD. If you do, it will try to save the game on the CD. Copy the game’s folder to your hard drive and mount that as your C: drive in DOSBox.
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ParticipantRemember your DOS, my son. Keep in mind that when you use dosbox, your c:\ directory is the directory you mounted the drive on. So if you mounted your c drive as c:\sierra\kq5, the drive thinks that the directory is c:\ when it’s really the folder that your game is in. Just to be on the safe side I like to mount c:\sierra as my c: drive and then type in cd kq5 to get to c:\kq5. Then when I go to save my game the save directory appears as c:\kq5. You don’t have to do it, but it’s a good way to make certain your save game stays in the same folder as your game’s content.
Also, make sure you’re not mounting your d drive as your c drive. Mount your d drive using “mount d d:\” then mount c as the directory your game is installed in. Then go to c: and run using the game’s c drive location.
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Participantnot only that but, as evidenced by the fan reaction to KQ3, why bother playing a game called King’s Quest if the character you’re playing doesn’t become royalty at the end? I think that’s why KQ2VGA made their ending that way. It’s also possible that’s what happened to Connor at the end of KQ8, but seeing as I’ve never played it…mheh…muh…mmh…
The main ending of KQ7 is like this **SPOILER ALERT** Rosella uses the strange Troll device to zap the fake Troll King, turning him to Edgar from KQ4. Edgar protects Rosella from Malicia, and then gets killed. Rosella zaps Malicia turning her into a baby. Rosella gives Edgar the life from the black cat. (If you fail to do this, you get a lesser ending where Edgar dies and everyone’s sad.) Some long exposition is given by all the characters. Finally, Edgar takes Rosella on a tour of his kingdom in a swan boat (Faries, Go figure.) Edgar asks for Rosella’s hand a second time, and she accepts. Then they fade out.**END SPOILER ALERT**
Aside from that scene, we don’t know what happened to Rosella. She was supposed to inherit the throne at the end of KQ4, but we don’t know if she became the queen or she stayed with Edgar and became his queen. (I certainly hope it’s the former, since Edgar is by no means a proper leader.) I think the KQ2VGA people thought Rosella became the queen of the faries, actually fulfilling the prophecy that none of Graham’s children would inherit the throne.
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ParticipantDoes anyone know how to save your game in dosbox? I’m playing KQ1 and it asks which directory I want to save in. I put C: but whenever I try to save it…it says something about drive being write protected.
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ParticipantI’ve got A LOT of very good condition boxes, some of them are unopened and most are in very good condition. I’ll start scanning them and posting them as time permits.
Troy
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ParticipantI wish KQ2VGA and KQ7 were fresher in my mind. I really need to play KQ7 again. Alex stays in the land of the Green Isles at the end of KQ6. I don’t remember what happened to Rosella in KQ7 at the end – what were the specific details?
As for KQ2VGA, isn’t that curse thing what the Father intends – but obviously wouldn’t the goal of the player in any future KQ games from AGDI, if the Father storyline is continued, be to counter-act that curse / prevent it from coming true?
When KQIX comes along, I’m sure they’ll have their own ideas about the future of Daventry and the whole KQ world.
“…at the end of the King’s Quest games” – well, we are at the end of the King’s Quest games. As far as Roberta is concerned, I guess KQ7 is the end. I don’t know if she still considers Mask canon after it didn’t really turn out how she envisioned. I need to play that game again too – I don’t remember what happened at the end of Mask – whether or not anything happened with Connor. People generally seemed to dislike Connor – in one scene from KQ2VGA, *SPOILER*, the player is given a choice to knight Connor or not to knight him (I think – or was it to actually crown him King? Again I forget). This doesn’t mean that according to AGDI Connor becomes King. It only means that it is a future possibility. Well, Sir Graham became King according to his heroic deeds. He wasn’t blood-related to the Royal Family. I would find it very fitting that if anyone ever interprets the end of the KQ story, the space of the KQ story measured according to the life and reign of King Graham, that the crown should be passed again to another brave knight.
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ParticipantI just think I’m falling into this correlation: Faux Shop = Faux alley behind the shop.
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ParticipantI agree. Johann is just a hater, man. If they didn’t understand the charm and beauty of the original games, AGD wouldn’t be doing what they’re doing now. They’d be off using their programming skills to try to imitate Halo or some other top-shelf titlw.
But people, this post isn’t about that at all. I want to talk about what you think happened at the end of the King’s Quest saga and how it compares to AGD’s version of it.
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ParticipantYou might be thinking of the LSL games.. although I can’t remember a painted scenerey in any of them. There’s a painted doorway on the side of the castle in KQ6. Maybe you were thinking of that?
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ParticipantI finally got a chance to play this magna-um opus. I keep getting the feeling they’d planned a “Larry” version of The Simpsons: Hit and Run, minus the cars. The entire menu system of the game is layed out the same way. If only they’d come up with more mini-games and more varied activities. Hit and Run was limited in that aspect as well, but at least you could drive in it.
Larry Lovage is a bit of a twerp. It’s obvious that the Laffer blood flows through his veins, (Hard to see how, since to my knowledge, Larry was an only child.) But he gives off just one too many pathetic whimpers whenever things don’t go his way. Leisure Suit Larry should be an icon of bravery in the face of nerdity, he shouldn’t “Lose confidence points and recieve a request from the game to lower the difficulty level.”
The ladies are Larry 6 and 7 fare. They’re parodic fantasy objects as opposed to the sane, normal women of the earlier games. Lovage expresses a vastly un-Larry-like trait by sneaking out his dorm room window every time a woman proves to be too much for him. Take a cue from your uncle Larry, Larry, you can’t be picky about these things, just let the woman put the ball-gag on you. It’s funny, or it was funny about the original games. At least they stay true to the convention that Larry never really gets lucky, just gets into several situations where he comes close.
Ultimately, LCLMCL is like staring at a woman through a pair of binoculars: good from afar but far from good. While the themes of Larry are prevailant through the saga, the humor falls extremely flat. It’s missing that great, big, throbbing, pulsating….heart that the original games had in spades, but at least it’s not a total waste of silicon.
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ParticipantI thought the alley behing the Faux shop was painted on. But maybe I’m mistaking that for sometihng in the Leisure Suit Larry games.
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ParticipantBut King’s Quest VII takes a great deal of its continuity from King’s Quest IV. We learn what has happened to Edgar since that game, (Kidnapped and mutated again) and we find out where his Kingdom is. Malicia is an enemy to the Fairy Kingdom just as Lolote was in the fourth game.
One thing I didn’t understand about the continuity between KQ5 and KQ6 was Mordack’s intent to kidnap Princess Cassima. Did he intend to kill her and allow Al Hazred’s reign to go un-abaited, and if so why did he even wait for Graham to show up and spoil the whole thing?
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ParticipantCollector, thanks a whole lot for these songs. I’m crazy about the prolog tune, but could find only snatches of it on my resource.sfx file. Also I couldn’t find any programs for splitting sfx files into individual music files, only individual speech files. Odd. So, I was planning to buy the limited edition package, which is pretty pricey now, just for the music you’ve given us. Thanks again.
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ParticipantFinally…I got it. DOS version but who cares it works that’s all that matters to me. I didn’t realize how frustrating trying to run old software on XP could be till I got this collection. All the other old games I’ve gotten running in XP with virtually no effort. I never knew how difficult it could be.
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ParticipantIt started loading like it was going to work and said something like this game is copyrighted to sierra 1992-93 then it went black.
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ParticipantIt worked for me. I just have trouble running everything else. All computers run differently so it just depends on which one you have I guess.
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ParticipantThank You so much! It worked like a charm. I’m glad someone is proficient in windows XP.
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ParticipantThe “easy way” (compatibility mode) doesn’t work for many Sierra games. 🙂
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