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(re: Let’s make it more comfortable.)
Hi!
Well I’m not the admin here, but I know that he has said before he is a programmer and that’s where the fun is had, programming this website, not simply downloading a setup like you mentioned, even though it is a nice one! It’s not so hard to surf, is it that bad? (kidding)
(re: KQ III and IV) Both disk and CD versions came with the Guidebook – the disk version the taller, oversized one, the CD version the smaller, square one. Collector, look forward to seeing your PDF of the tall one (as well as the other stuff you’re working on). I myself have the tall one and not the square one – I’d be interested to know if there’s any differences between them besides re-formatting that had to occur because of the size change? Did anything get left out?
Collector, I will do the KQ4 manual very soon… I’m getting my new scanner tomorrow.
The website vintage-sierra.com is excellent for seeing all the different versions of the games. This guy has a very complete collection. I’ve talked with him before about sending him some scans for his site of stuff he doesn’t have etc., maybe he could contribute to SierraGamers.com, and other things as well – but alas, he is not very good at responding to emails. Oh well, I’ve been talking recently with another collector who has a great collection of Sierra stuff who may be willing to contribute some scans of rare material, etc.(re: KQ III and IV)
I have the CD version and it came with an insert (I guess you could call it a square manual!) But… the insert doesn’t have any of the copy protection info in it, just installation instructions. I got this at a thrift store; I always assumed some sort of manual must have been packaged with it originally. Do you have a CD insert that also includes copy protection stuff?
The long skinny manual I got with the Mac version when the game first came out.
-emily
(re: re: KQ III and IV) Is the square one you are talking about the one that came with the CD? I have both, but, it’s the tall, narrow version that came with the floppy version that I scanned. I will upload the PDF when I get back home. I am now working on the Conquests of the Longbow manual. I have also started on the Space Quest 5 Hintbook too.
Also, if anyone has the King’s Quest IV manual, I would love to see it. Though I have KQ4, it is part of the two collection, so I have never seen the manual that came with original release of the game.(re: Status of InterAction archive project?)
I talked to Brad today over email, and the project is still being worked on. A recent hard drive crash I believe it was stalled some progress. The numbers are being finalized to have this guy from Kinkos, who does this sort of work on the side as well, do a lot of work on it. Meanwhile Brad and I both continue to work on archival projects, Interaction Magazine and otherwise. You should hear more from us in the way of updates and actual results in the new year. And from me, if things go as I plan them to, I’ll have some results in January and each month afterwards on a regular schedule!
(re: re: Iceman missed the boat)
heh… I never knew about that Space Quest / slot machine thing until after I played the game. I did it the hard way!
I don’t remember the details, but it’s a magnet or something that you stick on the machine.
-emily
(re: re: KQ III and IV)
I must really be getting old to think that 11:30 is late. (I’m on the west coast too.) I remember when it wasn’t. Oh well.
I have the tall skinny KQ6 manual (didn’t realize there was a square one too?) and would be willing to scan it if it’s different from the one Collector has. Incidentally, I noticed that replacement docs has a request for that manual – so if you have already scanned the KQ6 manual, it might be nice to upload it over there as well.
-emily
(re: KQ III and IV)
Well, I think we’ve agreed in light of Ken’s previous post that it doesn’t matter about the copyright protection. The KQ6 manual is certainly a beautiful one, if not the best one. Do you have the original taller one, or the second square one? Either way, do upload it to the King’s Quest museum so we can check it out!
(re: re: KQ III and IV)
I have scanned the manual to the floppy version of KQ6 and converted it to a really nice PDF. I have not posted it anywhere because of the copy protection. Maybe if the copy protection pages were deleted or obscured it would be OK to upload it here?
(re: re: Shadow of Darkness)
You can still have timer bugs with both VMWARE or Virual PC. DOSBox 0.6 works pretty well with QfG4, though the sound is not as good as with VDMSound. DOSBox will work fine on Windows 9x, not just Windows 2000/XP. The main limitation of DOSBox is more of a matter of the speed of the host machine, not the OS. There are Windows, Linux and Mac OS ports of it. If your machine is a little too slow for DOSBox, you can play the DOS version of the game with VDMSound and save your game right before you encounter one of the buggy places in the game. Exit the game, start it again in DOSBox, play your saved game in DOSBox to get past the buggy spot and save it again. Once you are past the bug you can run it with VDMS again from your new save game.
(re: KQ III and IV) Canada, West Coast, it’s 11:30 and I should be going to bed because I have to work early tomorrow.
Yes Emily we must have different collections, even if they’re only slightly different, I forget the particulars of mine (though I know it’s 1-6 too), because it’s not really mine, it’s my Dad’s.(re: Iceman missed the boat)
This game was probably the hardest one I tried to complete. Ok, I was only like 12 or something at the time, so there’s probably lots of stuff I didn’t think of 😉 so in the end I used a walkthru to get through the game. But, other than the sub sequence which I battled to get to work, the game rocked! I think one of the reasons why I enjoyed it was that, although it annoyed me at the time, it took so long to finish! This meant it provided entertainment for a long time.
However, must admit this is the only sierra game I never replayed like eight times. I think its because it was so hard or whatever.
(re: re: KQ III and IV)
Wow, now that is what I call quick turnaround! I really do appreciate the effort. In any case its just great to be able to play these games again. Its amazing the things that you find in a move, and the memories it brings back! I found this site a couple of weeks ago and read the copy protection thread, but could not find it when looking for an answer to this question, so thanks for the link.
I was also remembering all of the InterAction magazines I owned and kicked myself for throwing them away when I moved out for college.
Thanks again!
Steve(re: re: KQ III and IV)
Allrighty then, I’ll repost it.
My collection manual doesn’t have a fold out thingie, but we may have different collections. I have the 15-year anniversary collection (it *might* be a European release?) that included games 1-6. My manual has the table of contents at the back, which is one reason I thought it might be European. (It also says ENGLISH on the front cover, which is unusual unless it was released in languages other than English…)
-emily
(re: KQ III and IV) Alright no problem Emily, good on you for remembering where that post was. I’m sure it’s fine then to post that.
Actually I have several nice, large scans of the copyright protection stuff from the KQ collection manuals (there was also a 4 side fold-out I believe in addition to the manual) and because those pages are so thin, it took me a while but I cleaned them all up.
I wouldn’t make anyone scan the whole collection manual because it’s so big, but as I say I will scan the game manuals as they are not too long. I will also include the relevant pages from the collection manuals and bundle it all in a PDF file.
If you want you can put your scan back up in the interim so that Steve can play his KQ 🙂(re: KQ III and IV)
Hi Brandon,
Ken did comment on this in the past, link to the thread is below.
I did put a scan up in the KQ4 museum area but if you’d prefer I can take it down and put it up on my own website, and just post a link here. Don’t want to get anyone in trouble. It would be more in the vein of historical preservation to scan the whole Collection manual but I’m too sleepy to do the whole thing right now.
I personally would love to see the entire KQ4 manual again as mine was thrown away long ago.
-emily
ps I am going to remove my post in the museum area for now and wait to hear from you / Ken whether it is okay to put the copy protection scan up or not.
(re: KQ III and IV) Ken said he didn’t want games put up for download, but he didn’t mind links to sites with the games on them.
I’m sure he said something about manuals in the past, but I don’t remember and I don’t have it on record. At the least, just as with games, he probably wouldn’t mind a link posted to a site that has them. So the question is whether or not he’d mind if manuals were posted.
On the one hand, it wouldn’t be good to just have posts with all the copy-protection information in it. I wouldn’t approve of that. On the other hand, I think it would be perfectly reasonable to post manuals in full in the Musuem area. It’s more arguably the preservation of history than just passing the copy-protection info around. If Ken would allow that, I’ll be glad to get the KQ3 and KQ4 manuals done ASAP, since I will have my new scanner in a couple days. If Ken won’t allow that but would allow links to them, I’ll be happy to stash them elsewhere and offer links.(re: KQ III and IV)
The King’s Quest III manual appears to be available at Replacement Docs (link below).
KQ4 isn’t there. You’re right that the collection contains a list of words. I’ll scan it for you.
-emily
(re: Game Archive) I just wanted to say (and this seemed the best place to mention it) that I have significantly updated my personal collection page.
Link: http://www.sylpher.com/relight/sierra.htm(http://www.sylpher.com/relight/sierra.htm)
(re: re: Outpost 1.5 and Outpost 2)
All I remember of Outpost was that the first release was probably the worst game (in terms of stability) to ever leave the doors of Sierra as ‘complete’. Not their usual standard and although it was later fixed, it took a long time and the games players had moved on somewhat. Dunno about #2 as I didn’t get interested in it!
(re: re: re: re: re: Museum of Sierra Logos)
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In addition to this I suppose some of the other subsidiaries have used their own logo with references to their owner like Dynamix did. For instance, I guess there could have been a “Coktel Vision, part of the Sierra Family” logo.
End Quote:I own a box-slipcase of Gobliins 2 that has the above mentioned :
Coktel Vision
part of the Sierra FamilyBut a question on a side note, if you say that Coktel was accuired in 1993 how come there are Sierra labeled boxes Pre-’93 with coktel vision products?
Or atleast the game disk labels are Sierra labels.
Was it because Sierra was just publishing them and later accuired the whole company?(re: Shadow of Darkness)
Heres a sure fire way around error 52 in QFG4
Option 1: (What I do)
Use VMWARE or Virual PC (There are demos to download)
Install dos 6.22. That is enough for me to get the floppy QFG4 to run into the swamp and out with no problems.. even install Windows 3.1 and play windows versions (on VPC as VM ware has no 256 color support for 3.1) A friend added mo slow TO the emulated PC and got great results aswell.
Sorry dos box is pretty lame, for a free product its cool
but its got nothing on VM or VPC. You want to emulate the EXACT environment they were played in.Option 2: Kill that cache
If your not sure on what a BIOS is, I suggest you dont do this. But if you disable the L2 cache in your computers bios your pc will run like a dawg ^^. This will allow QFG4 to work no matter how fast your pc is. Problem is if you run windows XP etc prepare to wait half an hour to load 😛
With cache disabled QFG still runs great but you should make a DOS boot disk and a FAT hard drive partition to run the game. If you wait for windows to load, you may die of old age in the process.I think Option 1 is by FAR the best alternative, and if your a dedicatd old school game collector like me it is the only choice and worth the $$$. I was seriously coinsiderign setting up a 486 DX in my already computer filled house and im glad I didnt.
Let me know how you go.
(re: Sierra Site and History) Roberta and I were in Oakhurst for Thanksgiving. It was a quick trip, so we didn’t get to see anyone except Roberta’s parents.
We hadn’t been there for 10 years, and were curious to see what had changed. Not much. The Sierra buildings are still there – the brown building on the left as you come into town, that is now a medical building, is still there. That building was built for us. When subleased a bunch of it when we hit our trouble times around 1983. When we started growing again, we had to move elsewhere – and built a huge warehouse looking building, that is now Sierra Telephone, a few blocks from the center of town. The Talking Bear was even still there.
We noticed at breakfast (at the Kettle) that our waitress was the same as we had our last meal there. We were VERY homesick. It was a great place to live.
There is a hotel in the town; the Chateau Du Sureau, which we still own part of. It’s expensive, but if you’re ever in Oakhurst (near Yosemite), check it out. There isn’t a finer small hotel anywhere.
Thank you!
Ken Williams
