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>> Quote From BL [»» All I wanted to do is talk about the exciting things happening in game development. Instead it de-evolved into two rival programming factions, one who supports me, the other who does everything in their power to give me a bad name.] << Okay, hey – that’s cool. Exciting things in game development are cool to talk about, and probably a good thing. So let’s talk about them, and I’ll leave the LBCBR nastiness behind. What new, exciting game development happenings are you working on? Sounds like you have some interesting ideas.
(re: re: Idea for you Ken)
This idea has always been a good one. Why it hasn’t been put to full force is a mystery to me. There are so many emulators for video game systems, etc.
It would be nice to have a Windows based program called ” The Sierra Game Emulator” In my wishes it would do this. Of course you would start it like any other Windows app. But let’s say you start the app. You have a Windows like GUI where you could “install” games that you already own. Say you own Police Quest 2, and King’s Quest V CD. You could select those games from a list, and then click “install” The program itself would prompt you to insert the media needed, and then you are done. You then have a list of “isntalled” playable games in your list. Select it, click play, and the app automatically set’s your computer’s resolution, color depth, and sets up the needed sound emulation to make the game work, and work as well as it was made to.
Here is the thing. We could ask Ken to do this, but I can’t blame him for a damn second for not wanting to. “Sierra” (whatever that means today) should have such an app available, at the very least for purchase, along with bargain priced versions of the games intended for such an app.
For Vivendi or whatever you want to call it today, to not offer even BASIC MEANS to play the games their own purchase of this company was based on, is simply insane. If a group of fans would give a crap enough to make such an app FOR FREE, then how much more odd and wrath-inducing is it for Vivendo (did I say that?) to not offer such an app?
The only thing that makes me sad is that Ken wishes he would have started something more fun than this site, and the underlying software that he spends his free time developing. Ken, the lack of fun you are having is nothing compared to the sense of closure you have given fans such as myself after your sale of Sierra. You have closed a wound by simply giving us a means by which we can get those last thoughts out, and business or not, we deserve that much, even though you do not OWE it to us.
So thank you, and don’t go away again.
James,
You said:
“Brandon,I apologize for disregarding what you said above about leaving it be…but just some advice:
I saw this same thing happen on the other board a year ago, I’m warning you now, he’s not going to drop it. All of his threads were locked, and he started more. They finally had to ban him as far as I know.
Just don’t want to see him disrupt things here … “
»» All I wanted to do is talk about the exciting things happening in game development. Instead it de-evolved into two rival programming factions, one who supports me, the other who does everything in their power to give me a bad name.
I do admit defeat. Brandon is the admin here and if he doesn’t want to have an open conversation about Laura Bow, online gaming, and copyright, that’s his call. I’ll still post on other boards… just not Game Developers Public (I don’t have access to the Game Developers-Team forum so that’s not an issue).
Brandon,
I apologize for disregarding what you said above about leaving it be…but just some advice:
I saw this same thing happen on the other board a year ago, I’m warning you now, he’s not going to drop it. All of his threads were locked, and he started more. They finally had to ban him as far as I know.
Just don’t want to see him disrupt things here …
Brandon,
You said:
“Steven, thank you for your objective reporting of that recap. I can verify that what Steven has reported is true.”»» You agree with Steven’s opinion, but you are ignoring my desire to have an adult conversation about this, and you are also ignoring Paul’s call to reason. Since you are a moderator, you are trolling from the inside. That’s not right Brandon. We just have differing views.
“Now I haven’t followed all of the discussion here, but I want this thread to end. Discussion like this, no matter how well-intentioned individuals may be, only leads to angry argument and flaming – that’s what happened in the other gaming forum that Steven has mentioned.”
»» I agree; this forum is not adult enough to have a mature conversation that does not result in childish behavior.
“This isn’t really the place to talk about fan projects or to use these forums as a place to work on fan projects. There is a fan project area under “Sierra Chat” then goto “Fan Fiction, Art & Games”, but that should only be used to announce the release of a COMPLETED fan project or to discuss a fan project that is ALREADY COMPLETE. If you’ve already done this I’m sorry for missing it, but what you should really do Benjamin is setup your own forum, on ezboards for example you can do it for free, and you can invite people there to discuss your project.”
»» Brandon, others have spoken about it. I have a very loyal following. You also have a loyal following of Jodo-haters. If you don’t want to discuss my project, why leave nasty opinionated threads?
“Thank you and that’s end of story, guys. I trust you can let it be, but if you decide to continue this here, I’ll just delete all the posts.
Brandon Klassen ~ SierraGamers.com admin / dev team ~”
»» You can’t let it be Brandon. That’s the problem.
(re: pq2 help!!)
I hope thjis helps:
cyan tshirt: victor simms
black woman: wilma snider
blond man: moffet dickey
black man: robin jones
big moustache: chico granandez
fat man: jason taselli
long hair, moustache: jessie bains
dark blue tshirt: donald colby(PQ2 missing copy protection help!)
Hello everyone, just bought a used copy of the PQ collection and the manual is missing but I still want to play. Could someone give me the PQ2 codes please? much apprecited!
Steven, thank you for your objective reporting of that recap. I can verify that what Steven has reported is true.
Now I haven’t followed all of the discussion here, but I want this thread to end. Discussion like this, no matter how well-intentioned individuals may be, only leads to angry argument and flaming – that’s what happened in the other gaming forum that Steven has mentioned.
This isn’t really the place to talk about fan projects or to use these forums as a place to work on fan projects. There is a fan project area under “Sierra Chat” then goto “Fan Fiction, Art & Games”, but that should only be used to announce the release of a COMPLETED fan project or to discuss a fan project that is ALREADY COMPLETE. If you’ve already done this I’m sorry for missing it, but what you should really do Benjamin is setup your own forum, on ezboards for example you can do it for free, and you can invite people there to discuss your project.
Thank you and that’s end of story, guys. I trust you can let it be, but if you decide to continue this here, I’ll just delete all the posts.
Brandon Klassen ~ SierraGamers.com admin / dev team ~
(re: Police Quest Casebook)
I’ve heard about scoring bugs with PQ2, but every time I’ve played I’ve always gotten exactly 300, never more. I wonder if there’s some sort of bug in different versions.
I wrote a pointcheck back in 1997:
http://www.the-spoiler.com/ADVENTURE/Sierra/police.2.4.html
If you have any idea, I’d be interested to know where your scoring differs from mine.
~ Evan Dickens
~ http://www.adventuregamers.com/ Now here is a brief history of the Jodo Kast/CBequest story
About a year ago on a gaming forum, Jodo posted an intention to remake The Colonel’s Bequest. Interest was generated, and a nice dialogue was started amongst a collected bunch of amateur game makers. One posted a VGA conversion picture he had made of the Mansion Exterior in CBquest, and then Jodo immediately said “Good, now make all the rest!”
Which was met with some confusion, as the memeber clearly said he couldn’t work full time on the project, and merely posted the picture to help give an idea of what could be done. Jodo then got very strange with many of us, and took it to mean people were “on the team” if they expressed an interest, or even an opinion on the project. He then released a demo, which was one room in AGS, featuring a wacky-photoshop-filtered building exterior, and using the AGS Roger sprite, you found a key. The next demo was 7 ripped SCI screens from the Original Colonel’s Bequest – except they all scrolled. Still using the Roger sprite. He claimed a new demo would be out by Christmas, 2003. He got increasingly hostile and lost his sense of logic. Christmas came and went, no demo. His claim, which is now legendary amongst some, “It’s on Kazaa”. So, no demo, rude behavior, putdowns of other fan groups, and finally a geocities website later, Jodo kind of left circles. His geocites site had one 3-D rendered Background, that honestly wasn’t bad, and a punch of stock “Poser” characters on it. He claimed to move the setting to modern day (obviously NOT grasping the humourous names of the characters, which reflected celebrities and well known socialites of the time.) Anyway, a man named Powerhouse (who seemed to be Jodo in disguise) posted a message CLAIMING to be the reason why Sam and Max 2 was shut down, and any attempts to refute this were met with the same rude behavior.
Anyway, some of us feel he promises much to fans, and delivers nothing but hot air. Which wouldn’t be so bad, if he wasn’t rude in the process. That’s just a bit of history for you.
(re: Idea for you Ken) The old Sierra games are beginning to be unrunable on XP: such as Torin’s Passage.
My suggestion is for you to put your programming skills to work and write a utility that helps to run them on xp.Thanks for the suggestion — but I’ll pass. Perhaps some other fan will consider doing this. I’m bogged down on my website builder (
Link: http://ww.talkspot.com(http://ww.talkspot.com)
). I wish I had started a project that was a lot more fun — but, it’s too late now. I have a lot of time into this project and need to see it through to its end (whatever that may be).-Ken W
(re: About the Beta board)
That would be great if we could change the colors. I am at the age now (48) where my eye muscles do not focus correctly. Heading towards glasses.
(re: About the Beta board) Yup … I’m trying to decide now if I should allow each user to tweak the color scheme, or make a system-wide change.
-Ken W
I have a very hard time seeing red on a dark background. I really need more contrast than that. Just my opinion.
Paul,
A big plus to all of this is the passion involved. These are old school adventure games we’re talking about. Remakes have already been released, so it’s not going to end anytime soon.
If I can secure financing for my own online murder mystery I could ditch the whole Colonel’s Bequest tie-in. But since I don’t have any Sponsors, I’m basing it on Colonel’s Bequest so more people want to play it.
I’ll keep you updated, but Paul is right it’s seems odd. I’m more interested in talking about online game development, than ‘Top 10 Reasons why Jodo should Stop making Games’.
Swift said: “You can’t get away with lying forever. Sooner or later, even your fans will find out that you’ve been lying to them all this while.”
»» Look I don’t know who you are, but your intentions are clear. I’m sorry but you sound just like that guy S.S.! Why do you assume I am lying to you? It doesn’t matter.
I’ve read through this thread and I’m kind of lost. Heres what I gather:
1) Some guy is making a game about Lara Bow
2) He does not have the copyright or permission to use the name/characters
3) A group of people he knows from other forums have continued their arguements here
4) A giant flame war commencesOk I think a Lara Bow fan game would be fun, however I tend to agree with everyone else that it should not be done without Vivendi’s consent. Believe it or not, but if you try to release that game it will be stomped on. There were countless before you doing the same with other sierra games and many met that same fate.
Why not make a new character in the likeness of LB? It can’t be too hard to use your own talent to do so. I mean, there wasn’t anything truley needed about the name. A common misconception is that sierra’s names are needed to create good adventure games. That is false, I mean no one had a clue who Graham was in King’s Quest 1….but it remained a hit due to the content. If you create a decent enough character I’m sure your game will make them just as famous.
As for this war, I don’t understand why it must continue on Ken’s message board. I think you should all just let it go. Why is it such a crime to post about his game? I don’t want to take any sides on this issue but he hasn’t done a thing wrong. If you don’t believe he is working on it, so be it. Most games do take years to complete you know…even fan ones. If he fails so what, it’s no hair off your backs.
That has been asked many times over at the AGDI forums. According to the team, there’s no date set, but it might be released in 2005.
“Jodo replies »» Are you and Klitos done flirting in this thread? It’s fine if you do, but … it’s kind of distracting.” – Jodo
Like I said, your comprehension skills are “astounding”. I was thanking him for speaking up for me. I think that your ramblings are far more distracting.
“To address your concern there IS A FAN called SS TOTENKOPF. He or she writes very similar to you and I inferred that “Swift Sumner” meant “S.S.” My mistake! If you aren’t the user I thought you were, you have nothing to worry about.” – Jodo
I did a check on all the members of the AGDI forums under the memberlist. There is no “fan” called “S.S. Totenkopf”. While there used to be one in this forum, there isn’t any in AGDI. You’re using him as an excuse for your name-calling, aren’t you? You can’t claim that you mistook me for him, because all you had to do was to click on my username to see that I never posted in any other thread at that time, let alone post as “S.S. Totenkopf”.
I’m sick of your lies. Why don’t you just admit that you called me “S.S. Totenkopf” in order to insult me, like how you called Erpy “Troller” when he did nothing wrong to you.
You can’t get away with lying forever. Sooner or later, even your fans will find out that you’ve been lying to them all this while.
Steven said:
“Benjamin, Jodo, whatever, You obviously have NO grasp on how legal issues are handled. Get a book about entertainment and copyright law. Also, you cannot use the likenessess of actors or actresses without their permission for your game. So no virtual Renee Zellweger for you.”»» Your information is all very obvious. Virtual Talent Agencies can also CREATE characters. I’m talking about a virtual character that has the sexiness of Renee Zellweger… not the real Renee Zellweger. *Virtual*
Jodo replies »» Are you and Klitos done flirting in this thread? It’s fine if you do, but … it’s kind of distracting.
To address your concern there IS A FAN called SS TOTENKOPF. He or she writes very similar to you and I inferred that “Swift Sumner” meant “S.S.” My mistake! If you aren’t the user I thought you were, you have nothing to worry about.
Hi Just wondering if there is an exact date when quest for glory 2 remake will be avaliable to download.
thanks
Here’s one with some former LucasArts employees: http://www.telltalegames.com I believe they are a newish company creating games for free downloads.
