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ParticipantA number of online stores have Police Quest, Space Quest, Lesuire Suit Larry, Kings Quest COLLECTIONS marked for release on Oct 11, 2005. I didn’t see a confirmation on sierra.com, just that VU wasn’t commenting (shock).
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ParticipantIt is apparently a third-party company that has been given the games to make them compatible for new systems. Who really knows what it will look like and how the games will run until they’re released. I plan on phoning my local software store tomorrow to see if they’ll put copies on order for me. Should be interesting at the least just to see what they’ve done with them, and what they include in each collection.
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ParticipantBrandon, how have you confirmed this? Do you know who the third party is?
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Participanti will admit that this seems real and promising, but doesnt anyone think that it is very odd that they havent started advertisement on these collections with less than a month till release? especially since they are so old and most people will not be out looking for them. i mean, if they only include the “classics” the last one was LSL7 back in 96. the video game market has a short memory. and where the heck is a Quest for Glory collection, and why not Phantasmagoria also? it was a huge hit for sierra. i still think something is fishy about it. how do you have conformation of it brandon?
its just my luck though, i just spent the last year collecting all of the games seperatly over time because i couldnt afford the outrageous ebay prices for the old collections. i even put together a really nice sierra computer and now i might be able to run them on xp without emulators and patches. oh well.
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“… (by JT Harkey) i will admit that this seems real and promising, but doesnt anyone think that it is very odd that they havent started advertisement on these collections with less than a month till release? especially since they are so old and most people will not be out looking for them. i mean, if they only include the “classics” the last one was LSL7 back in 96. the video game market has a short memory. and where the heck is a Quest for Glory collection, and why not Phantasmagoria also? it was a huge hit for sierra. i still think something is fishy about it. how do you have conformation of it brandon?
…”My guess is that they are going to try and capitalize on what they can with the games and see how they sell. If there is a lot of interest they may ok another title for one or many of the series, which follows the story lines since the recent LSL was a big disappointment. (IMO) Additionally, it may just to bring them out of the unofficial Abandonware status so they have a reason to shutdown the sites hosting the files. Granted, they could have done this already without releasing the games. They might not be releasing the additional collections that you mention until they see how these do. I think LSL, SQ, KQ, and PQ were some of the best selling series back in the day. At least they were the ones that I always concentrated on.
My fear is that all they are going to do is push DOSBOX out the door with the original code all on one cd/dvd and rake in what they can. It’s probably a great way for additional capital, since they’d have to do absolutely nothing with the exception of support. Which may be why they aren’t marketing them at all. Besides, the people who are going to buy the games are the ones on this and other Sierra Classic fan boards. The general gamer today is not going to be interested. (Not a shooter, no rape, no car jackings, pimping, need I go on?) -
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ParticipantQuote:
“… Additionally, it may just to bring them out of the unofficial Abandonware status so they have a reason to shutdown the sites hosting the files….”this is a very good point. i almost agree with them if that is the case. being a programmer myself i do not support downloading software.
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“…My fear is that all they are going to do is push DOSBOX out the door with the original code all on one cd/dvd and rake in what they can. It’s probably a great way for additional capital, since they’d have to do absolutely nothing with the exception of support….”i was thinking this too. i figured it would be too costly to actually recode them, there were way too many versions of each engine to deal with. if you remember, old sierra did this too back in the day with some of the collections, all they did to deal with the timer issues was put a copy of one of those cpu slowdown utilites on the disk instead of actually fixing them.
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ParticipantQuote:
“… (by JT Harkey) this is a very good point. i almost agree with them if that is the case. being a programmer myself i do not support downloading software.i was thinking this too. i figured it would be too costly to actually recode them, there were way too many versions of each engine to deal with. if you remember, old sierra did this too back in the day with some of the collections, all they did to deal with the timer issues was put a copy of one of those cpu slowdown utilites on the disk instead of actually fixing them.
…”I agree and don’t agree. I purchased all the PQ/SQ/LSL games and a vast majority of the others. But through the years the disks went bad, got lost, etc. So, my point of view is that I paid for them years ago therefore I should still be entitled to play them. Granted the only proof I have is that I sent in my registration cards on each to ensure my subscription to the Sierra Magazine stayed current.
I am sure that [abandonware] has added a number of new fans (maybe not a lot but some) that wouldn’t have been fans if they couldn’t aquire them by a legal/illegal means. To new gamers who are used to the advances in gaming today would also probably be turned off by the standards of the 80’s-early 90’s when these games were cutting edge.No chance of a complete re-code. We’re talking 20+ titles here, it’d be in the high millions to bring them up to todays technology and would probably ruin the game for the old timers. (Cough) LSL – Magna Cum Laude (cough)
I remember the cpu fix. I tried loading the original pq on a 486/66 or maybe a P1 and sonny bonds would fly off the screen and be killed by traffic by the time I could press the right arrow key to stop him again.
Finally, I realized that these are compilations, not collections. So it may just be a subset of each collection. But we can hope that they are complete. Also, it’d be great if they release the [CGI] originals along with [VGA] remakes.
Maybe Ken or one of the other Sierra originals can give their opinion on what it would take to fix the original source to work in today’s enivronments(Opposed to just including a DOSBOX type emulator)? What they expect these may contain (Unreleased art/movies/parts of the game that never made releases)?
Also, will the old Sierra employees be buying their old work to replay their old creations? (I saw a post somewhere here that Ken stated Roberta and him don’t have a complete collection of Sierra games from when they owned the company)
I also found it funny that Meriam Webster’s Legal Dictionary defines Compilation as:
A collection of preexisting materials and data so arranged to form a new original work under the law of copyright
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ParticipantJoe sums it up perfectly. Just a legal trick to screw us over again.
It’ll have DOSBOX and VDM Sound on it, this collection, IF it ever comes to fruition. But I don’t know if it will..
It’ll be a lot less interesting than people think, though.
– Alistair
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ParticipantSo what’s the scoop on these? Anybody order any copies? Anyone even have a clue as to what the box art looks like?
I noticed on Amazon.Com that King’s Quest is #58 on the Computers &
Video Games sales rank. (Mind you, this includes hardware AND software
for ALL platforms including the consoles) So this is really
interesting. Oh and in case anyone was wondering, Space Quest follows
next, then Leisure Suit Larry and finally Police Quest (in that order
of rank).It bugs me that they ship in 1-2 WEEKS though.
Tom.
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Participanthasn’t anyone recieved these yet? i figured someone would’ve optioned for overnight shipping. i wonder if they ship in 1-2 weeks because of backorder or because they were delayed. im really anxious to see what the deal is.
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ParticipantI’m anxious to see these as well. I ordered from Amazon, but I live in Canada and these are only going to the US right now, so I had to have them sent to a friend, and then wait for him to re-direct them to me. I’m sure as soon as someone gets them they’ll post about it. People on other adventure-related message boards are talking about this and waiting for them as well.
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ParticipantYeah I pre-ordered on Amazon and got the 1-2 weeks thing. I wonder what the deal is! Maybe VU only made 100 of them and were overwhelmed… They make their return to the old series by giving us the shaft right out of the gate. Oh well.
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ParticipantAs of yesterday, VU (Can’t refer to them as Sierra anymore, doesn’t
seem right) hasn’t even announced the releases on their website. Nor
have they even claimed that there is/isnot going to be a actual release
of the games. I wouldn’t be suprised if they never come, or if they are
following the order numbers and now working to fix the games for todays
PC’s. I just think it is BS they won’t release ANY details. -
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ParticipantOH NO!!! I just saw this today on the Amazon site and just couldn’t believe it:
King’s Quest Compilation, et al.
Availability:
This item will be released on January 30, 2006. You may order it now and we will ship it to you when it arrives.I didn’t pre-order them, but I wonder if those that did are entitled to a refund? Or if they’ll EVER be released?
So much for getting them for the holidays, too. 🙁
Tom.
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ParticipantOn Amazon, you can cancel your orders if you pre-ordered. My pre-order
still says shipping by Nov 1. But I would guess that your correct on
the real release date.What a joke this is. I am guessing they put that out as a ‘lets see if
there is interest.’ Now they have to actually compile the games again.
Maybe I am wrong. But it is too fishy as to why they haven’t said
something about the releases publically.Then again maybe they are just doing this to give their copyrights more
protection as they go after fans games, abandonware sites, etc. Let’s
not forget Sierra is now owned by a member of both the MPAA and RIAA.
Can’t get worse then that.Makes me long for the good ‘ole days of Sierra.
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ParticipantI wouldn’t be surprised Joe if some of your suspicions were correct.
Tom, Amazon doesn’t charge your credit card until your stuff ships, so no one who ordered and decides to cancel needs a refund. I cancelled my order. I would have kept it on as I just wanted to change the quantities I ordered (I had ordered some extra as gifts assuming they would be released when indicated), but Amazon didn’t want to let me change the quantities, so I just cancelled my order.
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