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My first adventure game was KQ6 (still my favorite because of the multiple endings and my first computer game I think) and I purchased KQ5 after and loved it too. However I didn’t like KQ7 or KQ8 as much as the other two. I just couldn’t get into the story in KQ7 (I even like the text based games better) and KQ8 had horrible controls (no offense).
However, since adventure games aren’t made much anymore, I found a new alternative to Adventure games. RPGs, atleast good Japanese ones, have great stories. The American ones, I played only one, Summoner, aren’t as good as the best Japanese ones. Chrono Trigger, published by Square-Enix, was the first RPG I played (around 2000-2001). It’s still my favorite RPG and surpassed KQ6 as my favorite game of all time(well maybe second: I can’t forget Occarina of Time. My main problem with RPGs is the lack of action and Zelda provides a lot of action). Actually, my main requirement for a memorable game is a good story. Although I have loads of fun playing FPS’s and Fighting games, they would never rank in my favorite games list.
I think RPGs are the successor to Adventure games. Although they don’t offer as many puzzles, they offer great stories.
It all boils down to this: What do you guys think of RPGs in respect to Adventure games and by themselves?
P.S. When I say RPGs, I don’t mean Dungeons and Dragons. I still don’t think Diablo is an RPG since it’s more of a hack and slash game.
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i like RPGs with a good storyline and character development. the first RPG i ever played was sierra’s Quest for Glory 1. I didn’t realize it was in its own category… i just thought of it as an adventure game with fighting!
i enjoy the final fantasy games. those are the only RPGs i’ve really gotten into. i’ve played through some of Planescape: Torment and i enjoy it in small doses, but haven’t gotten invested like i do in adventures. i think there’s actually too much going on in that game. i prefer a game that has a strong storyline to follow, and there are so many different things going on in P:T i start to lose track (so the story is not as strong and engaging for me).
i am planning to play the other Quest for Glory games (so far i’ve only played the first one) but i’m waiting until after Tierra’s VGA remake of QfG2 comes out.
-emily
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Here’s a list of a few PC RPGs that you might like:
Baldur’s Gate I and II (Each has an expansion)
Fallout I and II (Two VERY cool games)
Planescape: Torment (Already mentioned but I’d like to
recommend it again. It starts off slow.. but has a VERY interesting plot. The NPCs are also top notch and I found it to be a lot of fun. The game actually has two or three books worth of text in it. Very deep game.)Here are a few other PC games that you might like as well:
Deus Ex (A very fun hybrid. The game is in first person but has RPG, FPS, and even Adventure game elements. Very cool plot and a very rich game world.)
Thief I and II (These are not adventure games but both have VERY cool plots. The game is first person but the goal is not to kill everything.. but rather to be stealthy. Play the games on the hardest setting. Opens up new areas you only get to play on the hardest difficulty.
Console RPGs you might not have heard of:
Everyone has heard of the Final Fantasy series.. but there are a few non FF RPGs worth taking a look at.
Sukidon (SP?) 3 (PS2)(Can be hard to find seeing as it was D/C four months after release. My fav console RPG of all time. You play three different parties throughout the entire game.)
Skies of Arcadia Legends (Gamecube & Dreamcast)(Fun RPG with a nice cast of NPCs and fun game world.)
Knights of the Old Republic (Xbox and PC)(If you’re a SW fan.. get this game. One of the best RPGs ever made.. period.)
Oh, on a final note.. there are a few adventure games that have come out on the Gameboy Advance and Gameboy Color.
Dejavu I and II for the GBC
Broken Sword: Shadows of the Templars for the GBA.
Also, there is a new Broken Sword adventure comming out for the major consoles this year. Who knows, maybe adventure games will find a new home?
JQ
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(re: re: RPG’s as opposed to Adventure Games) emily, you didn’t play the rest of the QFG series yet?? wow, am I envy you! you are expected to experience some great games! But: as I understand, the QFG2 remake won’t be with a text-parser. I strongly recommend to play QFG2 with a text-parser. The plot and story are very good; the whole point is to truly understand what’s happening and think what to ask, what to do. You can ask any question to anybody. Unlike in non-text-parsing games, in which you just click “talk” and see the possibilities. The text-parsing is making the game harder, but also much more entertaining and fun. You feel that’s YOU have actually traveled there ! The graphics also discourged me at first, but QFG 2 (which was the last Sierra game in 16 colors) gets you into the story so much (thanks to the text-parser as well) that it seems to be 32-bit color or so… [but really, being the last EGA game, QFG 2 utilize the full and most rich effect an EGA screen can get!]
As a QFG veteran (and one of the webmasters of
Link: http://www.geocities.com/qfgs(http://www.geocities.com/qfgs)
), I truely recommend you to play the original QFG 2 !
It’s up to you!
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i know, i know… avoiding the text parser makes me feel like such a sellout!
i played the VGA remake of QfG1 when sierra released it on the mac… so for me, playing the original QfG2 would be a step backwards. plus (and i hate to admit this) — although i was good at the text parsers when they were ubiquitous, i don’t know if i have the patience for them now. i don’t know, maybe i would. i recently played part of LSL2 for the first time and was doing okay with it…
of course, if i were to play the original QfG, i could do it NOW…
oh, the decisions!
-emily
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Another game that I would recommend is Neverwinter Nights. There are some people that cannot stand the game, but I think it is fun. There are multiple ways to play the game. You can play the official campaign, which is a 40 hour “adventure” with a story line. The campaign for the expansion pack is better than the one with the regular game, in my opinion. There are also many user made mods that feature good story lines and quests. Persisitant worlds are what I normally use. It is more like Ultima On-line if you have played that. A big world where you basically find people to party up with and then explore the various areas. Some servers also have houses you can buy, and tradeskills you can develop such as blacksmithing, tanning, mining, and gemcutting. You can then sell your wares to other players by setting up a vendor. I have been playing it a lot lately and it is pretty cool. You just have to find good mods or servers.
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(re: RPG’s as opposed to Adventure Games) If you want a good RPG, I’d suggest REALMS OF ARKANIA (best to get it in the TRILOGY pack these days… BLADE OF DESTINY, STAR TRAIL and SHADOWS OVER RIVA). Another good set of RPG is WIZARDRY (they just released WIZARDRY 8 not TOO long ago… good, fun game, even my wife enjoyed it). And of course, NEVERWINTER NIGHTS.
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Thanks for the recommendations! I’ve been really looking forward to trying out Deus Ex. It’s too bad that I can’t rent computer games.
But what do you guys think of RPG’s in respect to adventure games (I think they’re very related.)? What do you think of RPG’s in general?
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(re: re: RPG’s as opposed to Adventure Games) Never been into rpg’s, fooling around with stats, and turn based battles, where you have to decide what many weapons/spells to use, and then watching hitpoints count down, instead of actually seeing a decent battle, isn’t my idea of fun. Plus pointless side-quests that are used only to gain experience points and gold, aren’t that fun either, since in effect it takes you away from the main story. That’s what I like about adventure games, most of the puzzles and stuff (if done correctly) contribute to the main story. Plus you don’t have to get bogged down in a lot of non-fun details like stats and item choice. As far as whether they’re related, of course they are 🙂 an adventure game is essentially role-playing, and an rpg is essentially adventure, since adventure would include “venturing” but more specifically exploring. I prefer to think of adventures as “streamlined rpg’s” in that the things that rpg’s use that take you away from the story are dropped, and it’s pared down until you essentially have an interactive movie/fiction (or a cross-breed of the two). But in both you still play a role (player character’s) and you still do some adventureing (exploring).
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if a side quest is done well, it’s a story in itself. For example, Majora’s Mask (action RPG) had a very great side quest for a particular mask. Of course, the side quest ended up having a better story than the actual game, but that’s another story. Summoner has some great side quests. Final Fantasy doesn’t have very good side quests. Xenosaga has no sidequests.
I have to admit the rpg turn based style of combat is not very exiting, but its not entirely boring either. Then you have action RPGs like Ocarina of Time (probably my favorite game of all time) and action FPS’s like Deus Ex. But you’re right Adventure games are RPGs, but they aren’t RPGs in the traditional video gaming sense. There are plenty of RPGs that have puzzles. But now that I think about it, Action RPGs are like a mix of RPGs and Adventure games with the addition of combat. If the controls of KQ8 and the tone (for lack of a better word) of the story (too midieval, especially with the diction the characters used) were improved upon, KQ8 would be a great game.
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(re: re: re: re: RPG’s as opposed to Adventure Games) Personally I don’t pay money for sidequests or i should say sidequests that have their own stories (not that i’m against sidequests), but i’m paying for the experience, and if I have to go off and it takes me away from the immersion of the game then that game isn’t as fun to me because it broke it up. Technically most adventure games are full of the “proper” sidequests because they only have one goal in mind, and that’s to get to the end of it’s story. It’s sort of like reading two fictional books at the same time. As a rule of thumb I don’t like to do that, because it breaks the integrity of the two stories. This isn’t to say I don’t ever do it. Usually if I can’t stay interested in a book and i’m partway into and i stop reading for a whilte, i’ll sometimes read a more interesting book… but most of the time I don’t
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( re: RPG’s as opposed to Adventure Games) Hello,
I do not remember where I got this link, hopefully it was not from this board. Anyway, if you play Neverwinter Nights, this is a cool looking module. Someone remade Quest for Glory 1using the NWN engine. It is a module. I have not played it yet, but it looks pretty cool.
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