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Disheartened with LSL:MCL… I decided to install a real Larry game: LSL 7. However, I get an error message when I try to install it, saying I don’t have enough physical memory.. I have a gig of ram, but I run Windows 2000 Pro- Is there any way I can get this game to work on my system? Any help would be greeeat
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Windows 2000 is notoriously troublesome with running certain games (and some would say games in general). I run Win98SE, and rarely have any problems. So aside from changing your OS, the only thing I can recommend is that you scour the Internet for a solution. I’ve found that no matter what the game or what the query, someone somewhere has the answer.
And if you have an Nvidia card, keep in mind that some of their newer driver releases cause a lot of problems with some games, e.g. The Sims 2, Republic: The Revolution, Star Wars: KOTOR, etc. Though your specific card model may also have to be taken into consideration.
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Go to http://ayumi_chan15.tripod.com/soft/lsl7setup.html for this small utility to let you install LSL7 and other Sierra games that have the same problem of the hidden setup.
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Hello,
go to Control panel – Display settings (right click on the Desktop – Properties) and select the
Appearance tab. Change Style to “windows classic”. After the setup return it to XP-style, if you like.At least in my german WinXP it works. For more details you can visit Al Lowe’s troubleshooting site.
kind regards
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My recommendation to WinXP owners who want to play classic games (or any game older than four years, really) is simple:
1. Buy Windows 98 Second Edition. It is still commercially sold by Microsoft. Then download and install the full Internet Explorer 6, as it comes with all the updates you’ll need.
2. Buy an ATI Radeon. ATI’s drivers have always been much less troublesome than NVidia’s, only increasing the already good value for money of their products. Take note that Nvidia’s last 2 Win98/ME driver releases simply and fundamentally do not work. Their previous release, v. 56,64, will work but not with DirectX 9 games.
The above information shouldn’t be considered all-inclusive. All the same, I’ve conducted tests on several different PC’s which support these statements.
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“… (by Mkroelbeer9@hotmail.com ) I have the same problem, wanting to install LSL7 on my comp. I hear a sound and sierra online setup appears at the bottom of my screen but i dont see anythin Im running windows XP. Anyone who can help me?…”
this exact thing happened to me. for some reason the install window is just off the right of the screen. right click on the button on the bottom of the screen (on the toolbar) and then choose move. then use the press the left arrow until you see the window. other than that, larry 7 worked perfectly for me. i hope this helps.
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On my site you can find an installer for Larry 7 to install the game on Windows 2000 and XP. The installer can install the entire game to hard disk (so you don’t need the CD-ROM when playing) and automatically sets all compatibility settings. You can find it here:
http://home.planet.nl/~harms646/larry7.html
There are also step by step instructions for those that want to do a manual installation.
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Where to begin? 🙂 At the beginning, I ‘spose..
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“…go to Control panel – Display settings (right click on the Desktop – Properties) and select the
Appearance tab. Change Style to “windows classic”. After the setup return it to XP-style, if you like.At least in my german WinXP it works. For more details you can visit Al Lowe’s troubleshooting site….”
I fail to see how this would achieve anything.. at least, anything remotely useful to the cause of running old games.Quote:
“…My recommendation to WinXP owners who want to play classic games (or any game older than four years, really) is simple:1. Buy Windows 98 Second Edition. It is still commercially sold by Microsoft. Then download and install the full Internet Explorer 6, as it comes with all the updates you’ll need….”
How about you recommend something that will actually be of benefit to them, rather than recommending they fork out more money to Micro$oft to buy outmoded software? What nonsense. If you want to play the games on an old PC, *buy an old PC*..I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again! WinXP is not a bogeyman OS. It actually runs almost all Sierra games without problems, if you have a clue as to what you’re doing! Simple fact is that most people don’t put any effort into solving their own tech-support problems. XP gets blamed a lot, but usually it’s people not having a clue. VDM Sound/Speedset, DOSBOX, the timer patch fixes by NewRisingSun.. are all you need.
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“…On my site you can find an installer for Larry 7 to install the game on Windows 2000 and XP. The installer can install the entire game to hard disk (so you don’t need the CD-ROM when playing) and automatically sets all compatibility settings. You can find it here:http://home.planet.nl/~harms646/larry7.html
There are also step by step instructions for those that want to do a manual installation. …”
No offence, but couldn’t people, say, copy the game from their LSL7 CD to their hard disk, and change compatibility settings themselves? Seems rather redundant to me.Win2K is a nightmare to run DOS games on. Don’t bother. Use DOS, Win 3.1, 95, 98 or XP, the 5 best OS’s to run Sierra games on. LSL7’s not too hard to get running, though. Any Windows game should be OK, even in Win2000.. thoguh I hate all Sierra Windows versions of DOS games. 🙂
– Alistair
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Nonsense. XP is a nightmare. Nowhere near as user-friendly as Win98 and slow as hell. Not to mention the near non-existant backwards compatibility.
Today, anyone who’s serious about playing the best PC games is required to have at least two PC’s – a fast Pentium or Pentium II running DOS, and another PC running Win98/ME. On top of that, as the planned obsolescence in Microsoft products comes into effect, you will soon be required to own a fast XP-exclusive PC as well.
Depressing, isn’t it?
What we need now is an OS capable of running everything, that is also fast, FREE and reliable, and takes up little space. If only IBM hadn’t given up on OS/2 . . .
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“No offence, but couldn’t people, say, copy the game from their LSL7 CD to their hard disk, and change compatibility settings themselves? Seems rather redundant to me.”
You’d think so, but after selling a couple of hundred copies on eBay I think I can safely say that most people cannot do all those things themselves. Please keep in mind that not everyone is the 1337 H4X0R that you obviously are.
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“…Nonsense. XP is a nightmare. Nowhere near as user-friendly as Win98 and slow as hell. Not to mention the near non-existant backwards compatibility….”
Now I’d disagree with that comment! XP’s sure as hell not the best OS to use. Like, duh- the games were designed for what, 486’s-> Win 95?
However, that said, XP will run a large proportion of Sierra games fine. All SCI1 (VGA) Sierra games will run fine under XP. A large proportion of others will as well! Most, even. Especially with new programs like DOSBOX. If you believe otherwise, you’re simply uninformed. I’m not recommending people play the games under Windows XP, far from it- I’m just saying it can be done, and is no “nightmare” that people such as yourself seem to believe.Quote:
“…You’d think so, but after selling a couple of hundred copies on eBay I think I can safely say that most people cannot do all those things themselves. Please keep in mind that not everyone is the 1337 H4X0R that you obviously are….”I’ve doled out tech support advice for Sierra games at various message boards for years now. I’m fairly knowledgeable about getting the games working. I’m not some random character purporting to know more than they actually do!
Ergo, surely you could tell people to do this?
Anyways, we’ve run this point into the ground, I think..
– Alistair
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Barry: I’m hardly likely to crap on up in my ivory tower when to the average fan it’s meaningless 🙂
Johann: I completely agree. And one of my pet hates is tech support advice, esp. from Ebay sellers, recommending compatibility modes as a solution. Grr.
However, XP is still fine to run a lot of Sierra games! It’s simply a fact. If you’re not talking about Sierra games, you’d be at the wrong forums, wouldn’t ya? 😉– Alistair
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Johann: I completely agree. And one of my pet hates is tech support advice, esp. from Ebay sellers, recommending compatibility modes as a solution. Grr.
…”I completely agree! Who do those darn eBay sellers think they are? Giving their buyers simple, working and proven solutions instead of needlessly complicated ones, the nerve! I think it’s just plain wrong that they deprive their buyers of an intellectual challenge! Don’t they know that the frustration of getting an old DOS game to work on XP is almost as much fun as playing the actual game?
I’m so 1337 that I run all my old Sierra games in a DOSBox that runs in Wine that I installed on Linux which runs on my VMWare installation on Windows XP! Do eBay sellers ever tell you to do that? No! Because they’re all stupid n00bs! Aaaarrgghhhh!!!!!
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Recently Microsoft has started fixing it so that you must have 2000 or XP installed to run some of the newer games. At the same time, it has done nothing to make the OS more backwards compatible (even some games from as recent as two or three years ago won’t run well on it). And if that’s not unsporting, I don’t know what is.
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To reply to Johann first, I totally agree. Microsoft is a disgrace. In any other industry, it would be illegal to disclose so little information, when applying for intellectual property protection, and to make programs so backwards-compatibless (you know what I mean, even if I had to invent a phrase 🙂 ). Microsoft is lucky in that it was founded in the US of A, where most things go (are acceptible)in the realm of IP.
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“…I completely agree! Who do those darn eBay sellers think they are? Giving their buyers simple, working and proven solutions instead of needlessly complicated ones, the nerve! I think it’s just plain wrong that they deprive their buyers of an intellectual challenge! Don’t they know that the frustration of getting an old DOS game to work on XP is almost as much fun as playing the actual game?I’m so 1337 that I run all my old Sierra games in a DOSBox that runs in Wine that I installed on Linux which runs on my VMWare installation on Windows XP! Do eBay sellers ever tell you to do that? No! Because they’re all stupid n00bs! Aaaarrgghhhh!!!!! …”
God, this guy is something else! But some of the comments I’ve made have been (almost) equally shocking, so I’d better be fair here..Well, first of all, calling Ebay sellers giving tech support as “giving simple proven advice” is simply a falsehood. ‘Compatibility modes’ are NOT a means of tech support. If anything, they confuse the issue. They don’t actually DO anything, except change screen resolutions and colour palettes (which only helps a very small number of cases).
To that end, I’ve never seen a helpful comment made with regards to tech support, made by an Ebay seller on their auction. That’s my point, nothing else. I’m definitely of the opinion that wrong tech support is worse than none at all 🙂The notion that by trying to actually make sure advice is fitted to the problem, and actually being correct as well (and that people giving it have a frickin’ clue what they’re talking about 🙂 ), is somehow wanting to deprive people of tech support, making it harder to get the games working, is just an embarrassing comment.
On some forum the other day I read someone actually telling a fan (in terms of giving them tech support) something they obviously didn’t understand themselves, and saying that ‘Sierra games were my [their] specialty’. Now, if someone’s dishing out advice that’s wrong, and calling that their specialty, that seems to be the type of notion that Barry here advocates. Which I assume would not be the case.
The second paragraph should just be ignored, by anyone reading.. too late for me, I had to read it. 😛
At any rate, I don’t advocate any of the methods (albeit sarcastic ones) Barry listed in his joke paragraph. Except DOSBOX (in limited circumstances), the rest don’t really have much use (as Sierra game-enablers). XP is always made harder than it is.. people usually make it harder on themselves to run the games. But I’m digressing. What the hell was the original topic? LSL7 bugs? I wonder why this thread got revived.
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Alistair, I guess that I will have to be direct since you are really missing the point here: Larry 7 runs fine on Windows XP and 2000 using compatibility mode, I (and many others) have completed the game this way and can assure you that it works fine. It may surprise you, but this really is one of those rare cases where compatibility mode does work.
You seem to be flaming solutions without even having tried them yourself. For instance Klaus’ comment earlier in this thread about changing the Windows XP theme to classic, if you had tried it then you would have known that it solves the installation problems, but instead you decide to flame it because you “fail to see how this would achieve anything”. If you do not know what you are talking about then you should not “contribute” to the thread.
I also found your comment about eBay sellers (which I feel was directed at me) really ignorant. As an eBay seller AND a classic game enthusiast, I always make sure that I know how to run the games on Windows XP before selling them so that I can provide my buyers with some technical support. This means that if a game requires VDMSound or DOSBox to run on XP I advise to use those tools, but if a game only requires compatibility mode then I advise to use that. In the case of Larry 7 only compatibility mode is required, if hundreds of my customers (and thousands of people visiting my site) have tried it and find it (judging from all the email that I get) to be a good solution, then who are you to complain?
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