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ParticipantThis is a list of the products produced in Sierra’s Oakhurst California offices.
This list was produced at the time the Oakhurst offices were shut down and everyone laid off
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On-line Systems, Sierra On-Line, Yosemite Entertainment…R.I.P.
1980
Mystery House
Skeetshoot
Wizard and the Princess1981
Cranston Manor
Crossfire
Expeditor II Apple compiler
Frogger
Jawbreaker
Missile Defense
Mission: Asteroid
Softporn Adventure
Superscript
Thrilogy
Ultima 11982
Laff Pak
Lunar Leeper
Mousekattack
Time Zone
The Artist
Threshold
Ultima 2
Ulysses and the Golden FleeceSometime in the ’80s
BC 2: Grog’s Revenge
Bop-A-Bet
Cannonball Blitz
Creepy Corridors
Dictionary
Dragon’s Keep
EPF IV Programming Utility
Flip ‘n Match
General Manager
Gobbler
Graphics Toolbox Atari 800
Hi-Res Soccer
Hi-Res Cribbage
Hi-Res Golf Challenge
Hi-Res Football
Homeword
Homeword 2
Lisa Apple ][ compiler
Marauder
Memory Management System
Next Step program utilities
OneWrite
Paddle Graphics
Pegasus 2
Pest Patrol
Sabotage
Superscribe
Screenwriter
Speed ASM
Storymaker
Troll’s Tale
Ultima: Escape from Mt Drash
Wizard of Id’s WizMath
Wizard of Id’s WizType
Wrath of Denethenor1983
Apple Cider Spider
Aquatron
BC’s Quest for Tires 1
Jawbreaker 2
Learning with Leeper
Oil’s Well
Sammy Lightfoot
Stunt Flyer
Wall War1984
Championship Boxing
Dark Crystal
Gelfling Adventure
King’s Quest 1
Learning with Fuzzywomp
Mr. Cool1985
King’s Quest 21986
Black Cauldron
Donald Duck’s Playground
King’s Quest 3
Mickey’s Space Adventure
Police Quest 1
Smart Money
Winnie the Pooh1987
Leisure Suit Larry 1
Space Quest 1
Thexder 1
3D Helicopter Flight Simulator1988
Gold Rush!
King’s Quest 4
Manhunter: New York
Mixed Up Mother Goose
Police Quest 2
Silpheed
Space Quest 21989
Colonel’s Bequest
Hero’s Quest (QFG 1)
Hoyle 1
Leisure Suit Larry 2
Manhunter: San Francisco
On-Line modem software
Space Quest 31990
Codename: Iceman
Conquests of Camelot
Constant Companion (pre-TSN)
Hoyle 2: Solitaire
Jones in the Fast Lane
King’s Quest 5
Leisure Suit Larry 3
Oil’s Well remake
Quest for Glory 2Sorcerian
Thexder 2: Firehawk1991
Dagger of Amon Ra
Hoyle 3
Laffer Utilities
Leisure Suit Larry 5
Mixed Up Fairy Tales
Police Quest 3
Space Quest 4
Zeliard1992
Castle of Dr. Brain
Conquests of the Longbow
EcoQuest 1
Quest for Glory 31993
EcoQuest 2
Freddy Pharkas
Hoyle Classic Card Games
Island of Dr. Brain
Gabriel Knight 1
King’s Quest 6
Leisure Suit Larry 6
Pepper’s Adventures in Time
Playboy Date Book
Police Quest 4
Quest for Glory 4
Slater and Charlie Go Camping
Yserbius1994
King’s Quest 7
Outpost 11995
Gabriel Knight 2
Phantasmagoria
Police Quest: SWAT 1
Space Quest 61996
Lighthouse
The Realm1997
Collier’s Encyclopedia
Official Guide to Babylon 51998
Quest for Glory 5
SWAT 21999
February 22 :
Yosemite Entertainment is shut down in the middle of developing Babylon 5,
Middle Earth, and Navy Seals.Bye…
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Unknown,Unknown
Participant(re: List of Sierra Products)
Not being one to question the memory of one who’s in a way changed computer gaming, but I do believe Half-Life is missing from the late-90’s in the list… Unless you’re not counting games that Sierra published, or that you or Roberta didn’t personally have a hand in making.
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Half-Life was a Valve product.
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Participant(re: re: List of Sierra Products) This list was put together to represent games that were developed out of the Oakhurst offices of Sierra. Half-Life was produced in Seattle by Valve, and published by Sierra.
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Participant(re: re: re: List of Sierra Products) “This list was put together to represent games that were developed out of the Oakhurst offices of Sierra”
Hence a listing of the Better titles out of Sierra. 🙂
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Participant(re: re: List of Sierra Products) …or that you or Roberta didn’t personally have a hand in making…
I was involved in Half-Life. It, and Homeworld, were the last couple of products that we started on prior to the sale of the company.
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How sadly, I never got my hands on a copy on the Official B5 Guide (amongst many other Sierra products as well, of course, but I am a B5 fan) and so very sad that the B5 game was canned. All the preview stuff looked fabulous.
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Participant(re: List of Sierra Products) Whatever happened to Leisure Suit Larry 7: Lust for Sale, i wonder? It was published in 1996, i believe, and was the glorious Final of my beloved Serie!!!
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Wasn’t RAMA a Sierra game in that division? Made in 96′ If I believe.
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Participant(re: Comments on Sierra products list) Rama was made at Dynamix, in Eugene Oregon.
My recollection is that Rama was a disaster – way over budget, and neither a critical nor commercial success.
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There was Hunter Hunted and CyberGladiators. Hunter Hunted was released in late ’96 and CyberGaldiators never released, as I know. I found CG demo on the Hunter Hunted CD.
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Cyber Gladiators was released. I have a copy of it. I also liked RAMA. I am a big fan of Arthur C Clark and Issac Asamoz’s work.
I can’t belive you guys did BC’s quest for tires. My parents got that on a cartridge for out C64. I loved that game!
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I see the 2 Shivers titles are missing. Where were they developed?
Nathan
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Participant(re: List of Sierra Products) Wasn’t – Larry 8, SQ 7 – were also cut in Feb. 1999 ?
Larry 7 is missing from the list.
How about including the collections ?
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Thing is, this list only mentions titles made at Oakhurst. Larry 7 and such were made in Seattle at their Bellevue division.
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Participant(Ken: your personal collection of Sierra games)
Hi Ken,
I would have liked to know (if this is not an indiscreet question) which Sierra games you personally possess.
Do you own only a few, or nearly all of the Sierra games of the 80’s and 90’s?
Also for which machines do you have them (Apple 2 and IIGS, PC, Atari ST, Amiga, Mac, …)?
Vincent.
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Participant(re: Ken: your personal collection of Sierra games) Vincent:
I have a lot of the games, but have no idea which ones. We moved a few years ago from a large house to a much smaller house, and put everything that didn’t fit into a mini-storage unit. This included all of the old software that was on shelves in my office. About once a year I visit the storage unit or one reason or another, but it’s a dark and dreary place – and, not a place I want to hang out long enough to search through the boxes.
-Ken W
PS The best way to find the old Sierra games is to monitor eBay. Almost everything comes up for auction sooner or later on eBay. -
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Hi Ken,
The reason I was asking is because I am very interested in preserving all Sierra games.
Cartridges usually last for a very long time, and they are also easily dumpable.
For example, I have dumped the 2 Sierra PCjr cartridges I had (which are available on a friend’s site http://retrograde.trustno1.org/pcjr.htm).CDs also last for a quite long time, and they are more recent and probably easily dumpable as well.
The preservation of floppy disks, on the other hand, is a little more difficult. That’s why I have created the Disk2FDI software that is able to image any floppy disk with an excellent quality. With this tool, it is possible to dump any floppy, even a protected original, for any machine, then preserve the imaged floppy on a CD, DVD or whatever future storage may become available. The problem with real floppy disks is that they can get corrupted with time, so the task of preserving the older games should be done as soon as possible.
Floppy disk images can then be used with emulators supporting the image format, just as if you were using the original floppy with the real machine. BTW, that is what was done for the Roberta William’s Anthology.
What Disk2FDI adds is the ability to automatically image any original protected disk with only a PC.I was thinking that it would be very nice to make images of your collection, so that it can be preserved safely for the future.
I’m not (necessarily) interested in getting the games myself, but rather make sure there is at least a properly imaged copy kept somewhere. I also think that would be very interesting if a Sierra collection was made from the collection of the founder of Sierra himself. Whether it can become available to the public by one way or another in the future is another story…
I would be glad to offer you a free registration of Disk2FDI (www.oldskool.org/disk2fdi) so that you can use the enhanced imaging functionalities. I would also help you in any way I can so that you can setup a working configuration to make Disk2FDI work well.
Making such a collection with eBay would probably be very time and money-consuming, especially since I don’t live in the USA.
I know you may not have much time to do this, but please let me know what you think about the general idea of preserving the old games this way.
Vincent.
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Participant(re: re: re: Ken: your personal collection of Sierra games) Preserving the old games is important. I’d hate to think that ANY of our older products would just disappear because no one took the time to back them up. This happened in the film industry. There are many old films that will never be seen again because the prints were poorly preserved, or just not preserved.
That said…. I’m in overload mode. I mentioned in another post that fun keeps getting in the way of my spending time at my computer. Don’t get me wrong: I’m not ready to give up my geek-status, but I am starting to border on having a healthy relationship with my computer. Hopefully, I’ll find a way to get things back to normal at some point, but for now, finding time to rummage through my garage, and backup floppies isn’t happening. Hopefully, someone out there will pick up the slack.
I’ve always thought about opening a small museum that would showcase the old games; not just Sierra’s, but all of the old games. I may do this someday. Specifically, I’d like to do something in the tourist area of Seattle. I’d find old Apple II’s, Atari 800’s, etc and all the old games, and any old information I could find on the history of computer gaming. I doubt it would be a big success, but I bet it wouldn’t lose money either. We’ll see… it’s on my to-do list.
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Participant(re: Ken: your personal collection of Sierra games) I like this idea – the only thing that could get in the way of it being “useful” publicly is of course Sierra protecting their copyrights. As I’ve mentioned before, I’ve been doing the same sort of thing with my own collection of games, except not by using disk images.
I’m wondering just how the program works, and then will it read the image afterwards? Because the fans have great collections of disks too, not just Ken. Some insane fans may even have better collections than Ken. I don’t know about all the early non-PC games, but at least many people here have original disks for the PC-era of Sierra’s games. Perhaps if you were to give more information about the program and ideas about how such an archive could be created, how it would be organized, etc. -
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> That said…. I’m in overload mode. I mentioned in
> another post that fun keeps getting in the way of my
> spending time at my computer. Don’t get me wrong: I’m not
> ready to give up my geek-status, but I am starting to
> border on having a healthy relationship with my computer.
> Hopefully, I’ll find a way to get things back to normal
> at some point, but for now, finding time to rummage
> through my garage, and backup floppies isn’t happening.
> Hopefully, someone out there will pick up the slack.I’m ready to do it! I would indeed be extremely happy and honoured to do this task.
I think your collection could be the base of a full Sierra collection. I could backup all your games and create a list of what you have and what you don’t have, so that, as Brandon said, Sierra fans could complete the collection.
I think it would be more “authentic” (and also most probably faster) to start with your collection.
I am ready to take the time and effort to take care of this, and am free to do it whenever is more convenient for you.
> I’ve always thought about opening a small museum that
> would showcase the old games; not just Sierra’s, but all
> of the old games. I may do this someday. Specifically,
> I’d like to do something in the tourist area of Seattle.
> I’d find old Apple II’s, Atari 800’s, etc and all the old
> games, and any old information I could find on the
> history of computer gaming. I doubt it would be a big
> success, but I bet it wouldn’t lose money either. We’ll
> see… it’s on my to-do list.I also happen to be particularly interested in this topic. I’ve been part for some years now of a local association that aims at building a computer museum.
Vincent.
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Unknown,Unknown
Participant(re: re: Ken: your personal collection of Sierra games)
> I’m wondering just how the program works, and then will
> it read the image afterwards?The program stores a very accurate representation of all the “pulses” for each track of a floppy disk. This is (nearly) the lowest level of representation possible (we are talking about a far lower level than sector data, not to mention files!), so any kind of protection or strange layout can be imaged properly, and automatically.
The program requires some hardware:
– a “good” motherboard, in this case not meaning new or fast. It seems Pentium and older AMD motherboards are the best in this case.
– a fast parallel port card. A dedicated PCI-based parallel port card is best.
– a simple 2-wire cable that connects to the floppy cable on one end, and to the parallel port on the other.The software is not able to write images back to disk (mainly because, generally speaking, this is technically not possible), so the images must be used with emulators. The first emulator to support these images is the Amiga emulator WinUAE (www.winuae.net). Other emulators should follow (probably Atari ST first).
Anyway, I think the most important now is to backup the disks before they get corrupted. Emulators can be developed/enhanced later.
> at least many people here have original disks for the
> PC-era of Sierra’s games.In fact, I have quite a few myself as well 😉
> Perhaps if you were to give more information about the
> program and ideas about how such an archive could be
> created, how it would be organized, etc.I would think that it is better to start with Ken’s collection, and create a list of what’s missing, posted on this site. Fans could then make images of the missing games. I’m ready to offer registered versions to anyone having missing games, as well as give any advice to help setup a working configuration for the imaging process.
I’d like to see all Sierra games imaged, including any version for any machine in any language (I think LSL3 was the first multi-language Sierra game, at least in Europe).
The box, manuals, etc. should also be properly scanned (I’d say in 600 dpi quality) and the scans archived along with the disk images.
Vincent.
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Unknown,Unknown
Participant(re: re: re: Ken: your personal collection of Sierra games)
I think that eaven Ken has no idea of exactly how many of the games he actually owns.And there are collectors that visit this site that have some huge collections altho some of them are more narrow (like SQ only or anything PQ for example)
I personaly have brought up this IMAGING issue on a few sites so its good to know that someone is working on such software.
Let’s get together and start working on a list first and an accurate one then we’ll fill in the gaps of history..
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Perhaps people could simple just post the list of games they own? I have boxed versions of the following Sierra products:
Conquests of Camelot, Codename: Iceman, Colonel’s Bequest, Even More Incredible Machine, Jones i/t Fast Lane, KQ1, KQ2, KQ3, KQ4, KQ5, KQ6, KQ7, KQ8, Last Dynasty, LSL1 EGA Remake, LSL2, LSL3, LSL5, LSL6, LSL7, MHNY, MHSF, PQ1, PQ2, Pro Pilot ’99, Hero’s Quest, QfG2, QfG3, QfG5, Rama, SQ1, SQ2, SQ3, SQ4, SQ5, SQ6, Thexder remake, KQ Collection, PQ Collection, SQ CollectionI’d be willing to make disk images for all of these.
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Unknown,Unknown
Participant(re: List of Sierra Products)
Wow, what an amazing message board! I’ve been involved in the Sierra community since 1999 and never knew this place even existed!! Anyways, for the past year and a half I have been working on updating this list, working on a list of every game that Sierra designed/published since 1980, all the way up through 2004. So far I have pretty much completed the list, and would love to post it here if you guys would like to see it, but I don’t know how to do attachments or anything like that.
Anyways, I have a question about several of the software that were released “Sometime in the 80’s.” I have searched the internet and found the majority of the list and placed them in the proper years that they were produced, however, I still have seven left before my list of All Sierra games are complete. Those games are EPF IV Programming Utility, Graphics Toolbox Atari 800, Memory Management System, Next Step programming utilities, Paddle Graphics, Speed ASM, and Storymaker.
If any of you own this software and have dates for when it could be posted, I would love to hear from you! I will do my best to check up regularly. Thank you so much!
Sincerely,
JDHJANUS
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Participant(re: re: List of Sierra Products) Josh,
Wow.. this is nice list you have. Are all the dates verified with actual printed dates on boxes? Or are some still heresay ? I have a couple of copies of Story Maker at home – I will check the date on the boxes for you… I want to say off the top of my head it is 1983. I have been wanting to compile a new list with dates, since that list of products that was posted here has been floating around on the inet for quite some time with holes – so great job on improving the list, and even adding the newer products! I will be going through alot of my older software soon (pre 1985) and will let you know if I find anything that differs from the list.
Ken might be able to pin point some of the programming software… that you still lack placing.
I haven’t counted – but do you know how many products are on your list?
Thanks for sharing this with us!
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Unfortunately, I do not own the majority of these games. However, I have scoured the net looking at various sites such as Moby Games.com, amazon.com, etc. for release dates for the games. On the games that I couldn’t find an online release date for, I kept searching and searching around eBay. If I saw an auction pop up with one of the games/software that I was unsure about, I emailed the seller and asked them to verify the date on the box. So, that’s how I have come to the list that you see before you. I was looking over it earlier tonight and discovered a couple of minute errors (spelling, alphabetical, etc.) I have fixed them and I have the new list attached to this message. Thanks for the welcome!
BTW, does anyone know a good site that I can find scanned boxes of some of Sierra’s older games? I downloaded the zipped file that Mr. Williams put up here in these forums, but it is not complete and I’d like to see some of the really old Sierra box art from games like Mouskattack, Bop-A-Bet, etc.
Thanks! Talk to you later!
JDHJANUS
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Participant(re: re: List of Sierra Products) Josh,
I have two copies of Story Maker. They are both 1984 and both in a Clamshell style case. However there are small differences between the two. There is a Sierra Online Building release that has a Serif font treatment for it’s layout, and a few more words on the box, and then a Sierra Online Inc. release which is a little more concise as far as wording, but uses a more fun “Marker like” font which I think works better for selling the software – which is probably why they changed it. I’ll try to get some box scans posted. I’ll try to dig up more for your list.
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Where does Space Quest 5 – The Next Mutation fit in…?
I can’t find it on your list.
I do believe it was in 1993, but i’m not sure.MikeP.
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Participant(re: List of Sierra Products)
Wow! I can’t believe I missed that! *blushes at his stupidity.* And I’ve been working on this list for over a year now! I think the reason why is because I based all the timeline on the one above that was composed by the Sierra people, and assuming that they had all the series games figured out, I didn’t even think to look to see if any of them were missing. I’ll definitely add that to my list! Thank you so much for pointing that out!
Sincerely,
Josh
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I believe SQ5 was done at Dynamix when Mark Crowe was working there.
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Participant( List of Sierra Products)
Man i had no idea that they made sooo many sofware.This is by far the biggest list that i have ever seen.And most of all has all the collections in there aswell cause the info on them is kinda shady on any sites that ive visited.
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I’m interested in ACTUAL release dates, IE date, month, year. Surprisingly, no one else seems to be. But, if you want to check / add that sort of stuff on your list, check out mobygames.com, as they have some of that information (whether it’s completely accurate or not is another story). Also, I have been finding that some of my sealed Sierra games have thin barcode stickers on them with a date, month, year date on them. Is that a release date, or a store date, or what kind of date is that?
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Participant(re: re: List of Sierra Products) Brandon,
I am interested in the information too. But when you mean “release dates” are you wanting to know when they actually hit the shelves? Or when Sierra published them in their catalog, or what the dates says on the box, or what the dates say on the files on the disk? Just trying to pinpoint which milestone you want to record.
Maybe you are wanting to go by the date on the box, but just further clarify it with knowing the month, and day to go along with it.
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Participant(re: List of Sierra Products) These days, everything has a “release date” – IE, the date the product is SUPPOSED to hit the shelves. Retailers receive product in advance so they can label it, etc., then on the release day the put the product out. So assuming things weren’t that different 10 years ago, I’d be interested in the shelf date.
Then again, we really should record all information. Games should be listed not just by game name, but by version, so that we’ll have multiple entries for many games. All dates should be recorded – some boxes have actual dates on them, as I mentioned, which I don’t understand what that date means, as you say the files have dates on them too.
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Hi i found one more game box missing in the list
in 1987 there was (i think it’s the first one )
Sierra Value Pack – Space Quest 1 ,King’s Quest 2,Mixed-Up Mother Goose -
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no this one is the first one..or not
3-D Animated Adventure Games Starter Pack
Cause it has all of the first games
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Okay, so I’ve been searching for box covers of various Sierra games. As I’ve searched, I have discovered that there were many more errors in my list than I had realized, and furthermore, that there were even MORE items that I had left off. So, I have now updated the list. Many thanks to http://koti.mbnet.fi/~psychic/fin_games_sierra.html and http://vgmuseum.chaoticmonkey.com for they’re awesome information and help with the evolution of the list over the past week. So, I have attached to this list an even more updated collection of all the games published and/or designed by Sierra. I hope you guys like it.
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Josh
Check out the Value pack you missed two posts below.
I attached box pics.You can zoom in on the box date.
Also EcoQuest 1 came out in 1991 first and then in 1992 again on a Multimedia CD with voices in a Discovery Series Box.First release is just the normal slip-case with the sierra picture on the inner box. -
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Odd….I swear I had added that value pack to the list, but maybe I accidentally didn’t save it or something. Thank you so much for pointing that out, as well as the EcoQuest 1 dates! 🙂
JDHJANUS
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Participant(re: List of Sierra Products) Michael Scanlen asked me to upload this file as he couldn’t figure out how to. It’s an XLS file of Sierra games pulled from mobygames and sorted by name, year, platform and genre. But it doesn’t include the exact release dates that I mentioned Moby seems to have for some Sierra games.
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Josh,
Found another missing item.
Gabriel Knight – The Sins of the Fathers was re-released with a CD Version with voices in 1996 by SierraOriginals.
MikeP.
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Participant(re: List of Sierra Products)
Wow…okay…So it’s been quite some time since I last posted here. I’m still around, it’s just that school stepped in the way and prevented me from being able to really post here that much.
Anyways, I have been continually working on my Sierra timeline, and I have updated it to some extent. I still need to know dates for Beginning Reading, Dynamix Sample Pack, Early Math, EPF IV, Graphics Toolbox Atari 800, Kid’s Pack, Lisa 2.5, Lisa Educational Pak, Memory Management System, MMS II, The Next Step, Paddle Graphics, Pro Pilot USA, Speed/ASM, and Spelling Jungle. If anyone can verify these dates, that would be great!!!
I’ve attached the updated list to this message. Talk to you later!
JDHJANUS
Josh
The updated Sierra Game List! -
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You have QfG IV listed as Wages of War when it should be Shadows of Darkness =)
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