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    • #26408 Reply
      Unknown,Unknown
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      Clocks Ticking.  Any news about the release of the KQ and SQ compilations?  Walmart says 3/21/2006. 
      http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=4307237
      That’s a week away. 

    • #26409 Reply
      Unknown,Unknown
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      My Lord I hope its true this time…..I wanna buy some new King’s Quest stuff!! If they work great in XP I’ll be in heaven. And I might even forgive Vivendi enough to stop sending death treats to their management weekly! (Kidding)

      It was also very nice to see that great KQ9 article in Computer Gaming World this month!!! Very emotional for me reading that article, even moreso considering CGW gave so many of the old Sierra classics ‘Game of the Year’.

      Very good times!

    • #26410 Reply
      Unknown,Unknown
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      Nope, they’re not being released yet. VU probably projected that bumped
      date last year, so I assume that online retailers will get another
      projected bumped date in the next couple weeks.

      PS Ken, I don’t
      know why there’s carriage returns being inserted into this message?
      Most noticeably after the first time I use the word ‘bumped’, I never
      originally typed in the carriage returns and even when I edit it and
      then remove them, they still stay. Plus there’s a double CR between
      these two paragraphs but the editor shows only one.

    • #26411 Reply
      Unknown,Unknown
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      I doubt it will be released too.  There has been no official
      announcement and stores pretty much know as much as us so their release
      dates mean nothing.  For example, I saw on Amazon that A FIsh Called
      Wanda Deluxe Edition was coming out today.  So I thought cool, I’m
      gonna get that and I waited until today and I checked the site, and now
      it says it won’t be released until August 1st.  I’m glad I didn’t
      preorder.

    • #26412 Reply
      Unknown,Unknown
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      I’m not getting any younger!

    • #26413 Reply
      Unknown,Unknown
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      It’s official, the worst delay yet, I go my e-mail from Amazon today, and in the biggest leap yet, it now says the King’s Quest Compilation has been pushed back all the way to DECEMBER 31 !!! Estimated shipped by Januarary 4-7 of 2007 !!!!!!!!!!!!! Why O Why O Why? Can’t they see how much those compilations go for on eBay now? If they got the games out there and working nice in XP, they stand to restart the Series and bring a whole lot of people into the games again. I mean, there was a huge article in CGW about KQ !!!! If they did it right, good things could happen.

      It’s just so hard to see what at least in my opinion deserves ALOT better treatment. Woe is me! I feel heartbreak over the loss and mistreatment of my beloved Sierra!

      Oh yeah, was it just a rumor or fact that Vivendi had someone working on porting these games to XP? I hope that is the reasoning behind these delays! They taunt me with the fact they let the preorder show up on Amazon. On top of their disregard of our beloved series, they feel the need to slap me in my face and tease me with these releases. I am heartbroken now. Truly.

    • #26414 Reply
      Unknown,Unknown
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      They should release the engine, code, and rights to the fans and forget all of these release dates of a compilation that ain’t (is not) happening.

    • #26415 Reply
      Unknown,Unknown
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      I believe the third party working on the re-releases is simply doing an emulator-type deal.

      The third party will not be working with the original code and engine.

      It’s a fair bet that VU no longer has the original code and engine.
      They wouldn’t release that (or the rights for the games) to the fans,
      even if they had them. Why would they?

      This all goes back to my belief that VU should be getting NewRisingSun to fix these games.

    • #26416 Reply
      Unknown,Unknown
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      Brandon,

      Do you think a petition would get NewRisingSun the job? VU listened concerning KQ9 fan project, and allowed the Kq1 and Kq2 AGD fan projects!

      I have never had a good experience with an emulator, I messed with a SNES one way back when, just so I could play games that never made it to the U.S. from Japan. It worked, but there were always problems…..

    • #26417 Reply
      Unknown,Unknown
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      I really believe these compilations are coming but VU is indeed taking their time.

      My suspicion now is that they are trying to make them compatible with Windows Vista. It’s due out before the end of the year, and I bet VU doesn’t want to release something that won’t run on an OS that is just around the corner.

    • #26418 Reply
      Unknown,Unknown
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      Brandon, 
      Tomb Raiders released its Level Editor for all of its previous games when it switched to a new engine.  Ofcourse, that is not the same as the source code.  I don’t know if the SCI 1 engine is available in its original form on the web somewhere?
      I agree that VU would not do this, but I can dream.  Has there ever been a company that released the original source code for their game?
      I was wondering what Ken did in regards to the old games that went out of production when he was managing the store.  Did the games and source material go to storage?

    • #26419 Reply
      Unknown,Unknown
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      actually, releasing source code for older games is kind of a trend these days. i know that id software released all of its old source up until quake3, and if you think about how quake3 is only around 6 years old (i think it came out in 2000, not sure), thats pretty generous. i believe that epic has released the code for unreal 1. also, i have heard rumors that the code for duke3d is going to be released from 3d realms. i think that id started this trend, but i also think it wont catch on to the bigger companies like VU. john carmack of id actually supports the linux/open source movement and i think thats the only reason why he did it. and then other companies just copied him because they always do. a company like VU that doesnt care about consumers or developers probably would never even think of releasing code.

      i also find it hard to believe that the code for the engines and the script code for the games is gone. if that is true, that is the most irresponsible thing one can do in software design. thats as bad as a record company losing a master recording of an elvis song or something. i still have a copy of the source code for the first program i wrote back in high school ten years ago! didn’t they have any source control? maybe ken can elaborate on how Sierra used to handle source code archiving. i’m sure if it was lost it was during all of the switching around of management and stuff.

    • #26420 Reply
      Unknown,Unknown
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      Releasing code for dime a dozen shooters is one one thing, I guess,
      with Sierra’s old adventure games I suspect you’re in a different
      ballpark. Also with the old 3D games the fun of level editors and the
      code is making your own mods and improvements and such. There’s not as
      much
      ‘need’ for that and certainly not as much (at least perceived) target
      market, between the user-apps of AGI and SCI Studio and the
      decline of the adventure genre.

      LOL,
      I also have all the code for every program I wrote in high school. But
      at least in the early days of Sierra, code just wasn’t saved or
      documented like that. There’s a story (I forget where it’s from, either
      Hackers or High Score probably) about another company taking Sierra to
      court and they couldn’t prove a thing because Sierra didn’t keep or
      document any of their code. Of course in Sierra’s golden era I’m sure
      some code must have been kept, along with things like artwork, but then
      there’s the horror stories of how so much stuff was simply thrown away
      at the close of Oakhurst, for example.

      I don’t think a petition would be a helpful thing in this case. I don’t
      even know if NRS would be interested if approached by VU. I am
      following some of my own lines of inquiry to see what can be done.

      PS Ken> For some reason my messages are still all being truncacted
      at the end of lines and appearing with double carriage returns between
      lines when I’ve only put in single CRs. No one else’s messages seem to
      be doing this. Here at work, I’m using Mozilla Firefox 1.0.7 on a Linux
      Workstation.

    • #26421 Reply
      Unknown,Unknown
      Participant

      I don’t know if the SCI 1 engine is available in its original form on the web somewhere?

      Vivendi had nothing to do with it, of course, but there is actually a
      freeware SCI editor available at http://www.bripro.com/scistudio/index.php
      I haven’t had time to take a good look at it myself, but according to
      the web page it allows users to ‘create games using the
      exact same engine Sierra used’.

    • #26422 Reply
      Unknown,Unknown
      Participant

      re: Throwing Out Games, etc.

      When I visited Sierra Bellevue in ’97 they had, I’d guess, 20 or 30
      games from the classic times in the whole building (except what Tech
      Support may have been hiding).  My closet right now has probably
      100 or more, so I guess I’m one of those people with a sizeable
      collection in hopes of it being needed someday.

      About the emulation type stuff, I just downloaded Quest for Glory 1 and
      Space Quest 3 from Gametap and they seem to play okay.  Do you
      think this is a route that Sierra will take with more games that aren’t
      as easily boxed up for $20?

    • #26423 Reply
      Unknown,Unknown
      Participant

      Eh, I did a count: I have 65 original titles plus 10 duplicates.

      I think I have some more lying around, I just don’t know where to look 🙂

    • #26424 Reply
      Unknown,Unknown
      Participant

      Thanks for the game engine link Alun!

    • #26425 Reply
      Unknown,Unknown
      Participant

      I just noticed that Quest for Glory 1-3 have been added to Gametap, and Quest for Glory I got editors choice! WOOHOOO!!!

    • #26426 Reply
      Unknown,Unknown
      Participant

      It is interesting to see that Microsoft has now delayed their release of Windows Vista to the same date as the new release date for the compilations.  Do you think that VU had a heads up of the OS delay?  And, that they may be making the new compilation games Windows Vista compatible.

      Now I will have to update my Windows 3.1 !Smiley

    • #26427 Reply
      Unknown,Unknown
      Participant

      Quest for Glory I is now #3 on the ‘Top Ten Most Played’ list on Gametap!!!   This sure makes me happy 🙂

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